Comments on: Worse Than Janice Raymond

By: Jessica Sideways

Jessica Sideways — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:07:33 +0000

Really, how misinformed do someone have to be to think that you’re worse than Janice Raymond, Helen? As misinformed as a Republican Anti-Choice fundamentalist Christian tea bagger? Yeah, sounds about right.

By: helenboyd

helenboyd — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:41:36 +0000

did you notice the deletions?

By: radicalbitch.wordpress.com/

radicalbitch.wordpress.com/ — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:15:48 +0000

and I don’t abide name-calling

Neither do I……I won’t make the mistake of a comment here again.

By: SavoyTruffle

SavoyTruffle — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:17:52 +0000

I apologize; I was not being particularly rational or helpful.

By: helenboyd

helenboyd — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:44:39 +0000

I’m deleting any & all personal attacks in these comments (& really, anywhere else they appear where I have the ability to delete them. Enough.)

By: helenboyd

helenboyd — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:54:25 +0000

radicalbitch – since i don’t have another name for you handy – your point is well taken. & yes, vanessa rocks. she’s responded via my FB pages (which i linked to above).

By: radicalbitch.wordpress.com/

radicalbitch.wordpress.com/ — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:52:26 +0000

On your boards I’ve been insulted and attacked many many times…..
I discussed with you privately that the entire “cis” concept was one that othered transwomen from women and thus would prevent a full transition. One of the worst ideas to come down the pike in a long time.

As for being misunderstood and attacked by trans people, welcome to my world. Sucks doesn’t it?

Vanessa and I disagree on a lot of things too, but she is one of those few trans activists it is possible to do so with and still remain friends…….and we have had epic disagreements over the years and still count each other as friends. That, sadly, isn’t even remotely possible with most within trans communities.

By: helenboyd

helenboyd — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:42:53 +0000

for the record, Vanessa & I are good, as I suspected.

By: Diane Frank

Diane Frank — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:19:31 +0000

I agree with Savoy–

The answer to bad commentary by people not from a group is not to tell them to shut up, but to respond with a factual rebutal. Nothing less is acceptable in a society that places any value on free speech. Further, this is just another part of a continuing game that isn’t just about theory discussions but about disenfranchsing non-trans people from their experience (frequently negative) of transpeople. Finally, it is an unchangable reality that people outside groups do observe behavior and language, draw conclusions about a group and speak and write about them. Attempting to police this with anything other than more free speech is both futile and politically immature. It didn’t work for any other minority group, and trans activists repeating the mistakes of the past is surely evidence that they are only human and have no exemption, either personally or a group from critical analysis of their narratives.

By: helenboyd

helenboyd — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 18:30:24 +0000

Do you want a spot on TGB? Send me a gmail address for you by email & you’ve got it. I’m very heartened by this whole conversation.

That said, I don’t barge into threads in someone else’s scene. I get talked about lots of places I don’t participate, & I think it’s rude to go barging in & complaining it’s not fair when someone says something mean about me. That said, it’s public information & so I will comment on it here. Honestly, I wouldn’t have even seen it if someone hadn’t pointed it out to me (which honestly, I wish people wouldn’t do, but that’s another post entirely).

But I do think I have the right to address posts about me in my own universe, which is what this is, & in this case, I’m glad I did.

& I agree with you about Vanessa.

(I’m actually on my way out shortly, so any ongoing responses I’ll have to come back to much later tonight.)